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Matthew 18:9And if your eye is causing you to fall into sin, tear it out and away with it; it is better for you to enter into Life with only one eye, than to remain in possession of two eyes but be thrown into the Gehenna of fire.
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God
Dr. Venture: Oh, you don't know when to stop with all this, do you? You just keep pushing my buttons!
The Monarch: You're my arch-enemy! That's what I do! That's my thing!
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Dr. Girlfriend: Killing your arch-enemy on Christmas Eve - that's a gift for me?
The Monarch: Well, I got you some stocking-stuffers too...
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The Monarch: Please. How stupid do I look to you? World Domination. I'll leave that to the religious nuts or the Republicans, thank you. Girls more Girl
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In reply to this comment by marinara:
Well I'm sorry I lectured you, I didn't realize you were not receptive to my opinions about LDS.
In reply to this comment by thepinky:
I am LDS. I just refer to the church and church members in the third person in order to avoid accusatory and/or defensive language. People always start attacking ME instead of engaging in a good discussion of the CJCLDS, so I thought I'd try it this way for once. And people always try to convert me.
In reply to this comment by marinara:
So why are you so attracted to LDS?
Who is attracting you to LDS?
Why are they attracting you to LDS?
Why does LDS need to help you?
In reply to this comment by marinara:
So why are you so attracted to LDS?
Who is attracting you to LDS?
Why are they attracting you to LDS?
Why does LDS need to help you?
To what point and purpose ought I to compare them? I firmly believe that I will form a more just opinion of both by comparing them individually.
I ask you to seek an understanding of the CJCLDS from good sources and form an unbiased opinion based on facts instead of propaganda. But that is just too much to ask of some people. They would rather just watch some videos and read the first Mormon criticisms they can google.
In reply to this comment by marinara:
I think you are really pretty ..... that I compared LDS to Scientology. Well, you are certainly right, I'm always unhappy when someone compares ME (to anyone else).
A movie you haven't seen, a religion you don't know, some people who certainly seem happy with the religion they've chosen.
Actually I'm glad you asked me about the LDS. I certainly used hard language in the comment, it's obviously not a constructive comment.
Spending a few minutes googling LDS people who have left the church is really, gives me a sadly familiar feeling. I have to reflect on what these people seem to be feeling. A raw feeling of loss, a cold horror at all that had been taken from them. Even without the exit stories, the LDS is just unfamiliar and strange.
Seems like you asked me not to compare LDS and Scientology. Rather, I ask you personally to actively compare the two.
The film has received extraordinarily unfavorable reviews, and holds a 13% overall rating and a 0% Cream of the Crop rating at the aggregate site Rotten Tomatoes as of February 6, 2008. It received a rare "zero stars" review from film critic Roger Ebert, and the New York Post gave the movie an unusual 0/4.
The film has been described by various critics (most or all of whom are not LDS) as "the year's first honest-to-goodness exploitation flick," as "carrying an anti-Mormon agenda," as "some sort of attack piece on the Mormon religion," as "little more than wild-eyed anti-Mormon propaganda," as "a stridently anti-Mormon and cliché-heavy melodrama," as "unbelievably ugly and an insult to Mormons," as a "Swift Boating of Mormonism that advocates the religious intolerance it’s supposedly condemning," as "clearly anti-Mormon," as an "anti-Mormon broadside" that is "certain to fan the flames of hatred toward America's largest homegrown religion and continue the persecution that terrified the original Mormons."
The movie has "the chilling certitude of the self-righteous" that goes beyond "mockery" and is "practically a call to jihad [against Mormons]." It "equates the institution of the Mormon church with Islamic extremism at every opportunity," it is "propaganda pure and simple," is "filmmaking at its worst...full of propaganda," and it "goes way beyond history into the realm of speculation, rumor, myth and gossip." Critics further state that the movie "feel[s] like blatant propaganda," and that there is an "unmistakable air of evil about this enterprise, and not just an atrocity the Mormon church caused to happen 150 years ago" and its negative portrayal of Mormons is "unsubtle (in the manner most closely associated with Dr. Goebbels)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_Dawn
Ummmm...soooo...I wouldn't exactly base my opinions about Mormons on that movie.
Furthermore, Mormons do not pay their clergy and so are FAR FAR FAR less likely to be corrupt than other religions. I don't really see how corruption plays a role at all.
Every Mormon I have ever come into contact with has been extremely kind, happy, and helpful. I think that the media and other ignorant people choose to focus on the most unusual elements of the religion, take them out of context, and call them crazy. It is incredibly bigoted, intolerant, ignorant, and unkind. I think it is EXTREMELY unfair to compare the LDS church with Scientology. Ridiculous, in fact. For goodness' sake, they're good people. They're just misunderstood.
In reply to this comment by marinara:
pinky, you're trying to be fair to the mormons.
I would rather not be fair.
but then i just watched September Dawn.
I would rather ask.... is Mormons more or less of a con game, than say, Scientology? I actually liked L. Ron Hubbard, can't say the same for Joe Smith.
Mormonism = the church of the latter day saints and the elders and the corrupt and etc.
In reply to this comment by marinara:
well now we know 4 sure. don't we
also i have the best olbermann vid on the dropping out already in the unsifted queue:
http://politics.videosift.com/video/Weve-Been-Waiting-Clintons-Friends-Hold-An-Intervention
In reply to this comment by NetRunner:
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/6/2/152515/7462
Either could be right. I choose to believe that she's gonna drop out tomorrow, but the HuffPo piece is perfectly consistent with how she's run her campaign up to this point.
I think when it comes down to it, she'll concede, otherwise it's unlikely she'll get to remain in politics.
At least, with the Democratic party.
In reply to this comment by marinara:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/m.s.-bellows/the-trap-clintons-briarpa_b_104198.html
Either could be right. I choose to believe that she's gonna drop out tomorrow, but the HuffPo piece is perfectly consistent with how she's run her campaign up to this point.
I think when it comes down to it, she'll concede, otherwise it's unlikely she'll get to remain in politics.
At least, with the Democratic party.
In reply to this comment by marinara:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/m.s.-bellows/the-trap-clintons-briarpa_b_104198.html
http://www.videosift.com/video/USA-Sub-Prime-Crisis-Hits-Most-Remote-Norway
In reply to this comment by marinara:
http://www.videosift.com/search?q=fred&pg=1
a gem "in the rough" IMHO.
btw.. here's how I see most Obama supporters... it's a f'ing disgrace... and it's why I can't support him blindly... Change for the sake of change itself is not progress.
http://www.videosift.com/video/Barack-Obama-Change-we-can-believe-in
http://www.videosift.com/video/Why-Ron-Paul-did-not-win-the-Florida-Primary
In reply to this comment by marinara:
Stop it! You're really cheering me up!
In reply to this comment by Constitutional_Patriot:
Hey thanks.. although I have mixed feelings on Olbermann (because he suppressed positive talking points on the non-CFR candidates Paul,Kucinich and Gravel) I do tend to agree with most of his special commentaries and when he isn't covering completely trivial topics and focuses on serious ones like this instead. Karl Rove is a piece of shit and he's one of the main reasons for many of the executive branches recent bold violations of the constitution and I believe he has always engaged in non-ethical tactics including voting fraud. Still even with these things well-known it should also be noted that he is a frontman... his strings are being pulled part of the time as well.
Why didn't you post this vid on the sift? It's fucking excellent.
In reply to this comment by marinara:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8MOqH7ia40
In reply to this comment by marinara:
hey dude I got a gem for you this time. if you don't want to post it, i'll just wait for my unsifted queue to clear.
also I wondered if you watched the votersthink.org vid where olbermann is yelling about clinton's latest comment.
Myself, I'm really surprised that olbermann is so irate about clinton's dumb comment. But the more I think about it, the more I think clinton should have been able to avoid the mess.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UHY7mcRWio
here's the vid, I'll let you post it, but let me know if u dont want it.
Why didn't you post this vid on the sift? It's fucking excellent.
In reply to this comment by marinara:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8MOqH7ia40
Well done and keep up the good work!
In reply to this comment by marinara:
yer american dementia video is dead